Stephen Jay Gould was a Harvard University biology professor, prolific popularizer of science, and a pugnacious intellectual who took on creationism and fellow academics who he thought misinterpreted or misused evolutionary biology.

Robert Creeley is often cited as one of the greatest poets of the last half of the twentieth century. I once wrote that he can “shake a lot of meaning out of a few words.” He spoke with me about jazz, poetry, his Yankee influences, his dislike for poetry workshops, and why Robert Frost was the “Colonel Sanders of poetry.”